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Shaq Diesel
09-12-2007, 11:11 AM
So I was talking with some co-workers today about the Vegas trip and one key item they mentioned was having TONS of water and aspirin for going up Pike's Peak. On top of needing tons of water for the high altitudes, I'll also need it for the desert section as well.

This got me thinking... I have an old 70oz Camelbak that I've had for a while. Neat little bugger but now I'm wondering if having 100oz wouldn't be more beneficial.

So, I am here to get some experiences from those who travel and use these a lot more than I do. How much water do you really go through when riding in the desert and at high altitudes when riding? Do you really drink more than 70oz between gas stops of 200 miles? How long (i.e. how many hours) does it take you to go through whatever size Camelbak (or similar wearable hydration system) you take?

I was looking at the Camelbak Mule the other day and while it has some neat pockets and features, it's hard to justify buying one. Now if I found that the extra 30oz would be of great benefit, I could possibly pull the trigger. I happily await your seasoned responses.

Juice
09-12-2007, 11:20 AM
I have never consumed more the 70oz between gas stops. Although, I have ran out of water while hiking and site seeing. I have plans in the near future to upgrade to the 100oz but for this Vegas trip my 70oz will have to suffice.

scooterhose
09-12-2007, 11:55 AM
More is better.
It also comes in handy in emergencies, like a final drive fire or something.:D

Juice
09-12-2007, 11:57 AM
Nice shot scooter. Rep points awarded.




It also comes in handy in emergencies, like a final drive fire or something.:D

scooterhose
09-12-2007, 12:01 PM
Nice shot scooter. Rep points awarded.


Just a random example. Walk away whistling with hands in pocket.

Dirty_Sanchez
09-12-2007, 12:12 PM
More is better, but if you don't have that larger bladder, run what you brung.

I do like my 100oz Camelbak Mule FWIW.

As far as the Piike's Peak Run, I did it years back on a hopped up Vespa Scooter.

Even mid summer we started off completely suited up in cold weather gear in Manitou Springs at the base of the hill even though it was 80F.

By the time we got to the summit, a 7,000 foot elevation change, snow was coming down sideways, visability was less than 50 yards, and the temp had fallen to the mid 20's.

The rapid altitude change didn't give me a headache at all. I do remember getting completely winded plodding through the slush and amazingly strong winds while trying to get that P200E up on it's centerstand.

We jetted down to handle the altitude change (but not near enough), and we were still passing cars all the way up.

Those little two smokers sounded like chainsaws on the hill that day.

They keep the road in awesome packed gravel condition. The lower third of the road up is paved, and rest is packed gravel....at least it was 15 years ago.

Dirty

Shaq Diesel
09-12-2007, 12:36 PM
More is better.
It also comes in handy in emergencies, like a final drive fire or something.:D

Don't you know, we just let the mutha@#%&*$ burn :)

minig0d
09-12-2007, 12:42 PM
shaq keep in mind you are a bigger guy too your water consumption needs will be more than someone of a smaller size... and more is always better... you'll be pissed if you didnt spend the extra few bucks and you run out of water... if you run out with the bigger size at least you'll know you got the biggest avail :)

jason70360
09-12-2007, 09:26 PM
I love my 100 and used every bit of it on my Maine trip last month. I find that it is heavy in weight and moved the bladder to my tank bag, worked GREAT!

ka5ysy
09-12-2007, 09:53 PM
More is better.
It also comes in handy in emergencies, like a final drive fire or something.:D

WARNING WILL ROBINSON: This kind of event is a hydrocarbon fire,
DO NOT USE WATER ON A GREASE FIRE !!!Oops

Ya need to carry a Dry Chemical extinguisher or Foam.

(Not contraceptive.. That is a different emergency situation altogether! asdf. )


As all us BMW Pilots know! Coffee12<--Community, not Starbucks!

scooterhose
09-12-2007, 10:43 PM
Lol1

I almost added a note to that effect.







WARNING WILL ROBINSON: This kind of event is a hydrocarbon fire,
DO NOT USE WATER ON A GREASE FIRE !!!Oops

Ya need to carry a Dry Chemical extinguisher or Foam.

(Not contraceptive.. That is a different emergency situation altogether! asdf. )


As all us BMW Pilots know! Coffee12<--Community, not Starbucks!

scooterhose
09-12-2007, 10:44 PM
Don't you know, we just let the mutha@#%&*$ burn :)


...'cause your older and have better insurance.:D

Shaq Diesel
09-12-2007, 11:08 PM
...'cause your older and have better insurance.:D

maybe better insurance, but I doubt I'm older... :)

Britton
09-12-2007, 11:19 PM
You don't need the 100 oz. All you have to do is get a condom cathater and instead of running the tubing down your leg, just run it up to your "other" bladder. :D

Britton
09-12-2007, 11:28 PM
Seriously, high altitude and the desert are much, much drier than this climate. You will need more hydration than you are used to. I grew up in Vegas and when I was riding during the summer and fall I was constantly drinking to try and keep hydrated. Remember, if you are thirsty, you are already behind the 8-ball. Drink constantly and prevent yourself from becoming thirsty. Also, increase your potassium intake. That'll help prevent cramping. The aspirin (80 mg/day) is a good idea since you will spend long hours in the saddle with your knees bent. Combine that with dehydration and it is easy to create a deep vein thrombosis in your leg that could lead to a pulmonary embolism.

CapoLee
09-12-2007, 11:35 PM
"peeonu"
Just get a Cold Beer Stunt Man.

Britton
09-12-2007, 11:39 PM
"peeonu"
Just get a Cold Beer Stunt Man.

or 12!

CapoLee
09-12-2007, 11:44 PM
"peeonu"
CoonAss's buy them by the Quart.

Britton
09-12-2007, 11:46 PM
Do those quarts come with a Harley?

Ritten
09-13-2007, 01:10 AM
I'll throw in my .02 here for you Stu as well. I have a 100oz camelbak (Havoc) and have NEVER drank it all between gas stops. However, it is nice to not have to fill it up at every gas stop when you're trying to make some miles. The only time I've had to fill it up more than once in a day's ride is riding in temperatures in the mid-upper 90's and higher. You will need to drink a lot in the higher elevations, but because the temperature is cooler up there you won't be drinking nearly as much as you will in the extreme heat. You simply won't be sweating it out as much.

jason70360
09-13-2007, 08:39 PM
I'll throw in my .02 here for you Stu as well. I have a 100oz camelbak (Havoc) and have NEVER drank it all between gas stops. However, it is nice to not have to fill it up at every gas stop when you're trying to make some miles. The only time I've had to fill it up more than once in a day's ride is riding in temperatures in the mid-upper 90's and higher. You will need to drink a lot in the higher elevations, but because the temperature is cooler up there you won't be drinking nearly as much as you will in the extreme heat. You simply won't be sweating it out as much.


I also have a Havoc, it retails for $110 but I found mine on-line for around $80 including shipping.