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FreeSky
11-16-2007, 11:27 AM
Someone mentioned the words "turd polisher" when I did my intro to the forums and I have yet to hear a more appropriate name for the monstrosity living in my garage.

The name, Ethyl. A 1983 Honda Magna V65.
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s292/carlagodzilla/Ethyl/DSC00650.jpg

Ethyl has a turbulent history. No one quite knows who her original owner was. She was bought used by a 20-something college student and laid down on the highway after only 500 or so miles. He got scared and didn't ride her again. So she sat for about 6 months until I passed news of her on to my friend, aka NinjaMom. NinjaMom bought her for a mere $500. The battery was dead, but the owner assured us it would start.

NinjaMom took her home and promptly parked her outside...under a tree and a tarp. Not the best place for a bike to live. A few attempts were made during the next two years to turn the engine over. NinjaMom has a mechanic friend who fiddled with it. But no success.

I finally convinced her to bring it over to my nice cozy enclosed garage and I'd do what I could in my freetime...which, as a grad student, isn't much but I hated to see this beautiful machine rot away. She was in bad shape as evidenced in the pictures. Dented tank, a colony of ants making residence, turn signals rotting away, fork seal totally fragged, headlight ziptied on, handlebars askew, two flat tires...the list goes on and on.
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s292/carlagodzilla/Ethyl/DSC00656.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s292/carlagodzilla/Ethyl/DSC00653.jpg

First order of business: Kill the freakin' ants! Much spraying and waiting resulted in lots of little corpses under the bike.

Second order of business: We're on a limited budget, so bare necessities...will it start? The first attempt made liberal use of starter fluid, new plugs, etc. (all the "easy" stuff) to no avail. A strip down was in order.

First the air filter. Turns out a small family of sparrows had decided this would make a great home. I have pics of the nest somewhere that I'll post when I get them loaded.

If anyone has ever worked on a Magna, it's cramped. The carbs took quite a bit of patience and cursing. Finally had to use carb cleaner to loosen the rubber boots between the engine and the carb and pry it out with the Harbor Freight tire bar tool. Success!

Of course as soon as I got it out, I dumped out several more little ant corpses. Bleh...it was pretty gunky on the exposed parts, but looked in decent shape. A little spritzing will probably clean it up enough to start things.

The problem came when gazing in the intake (via digital camera because there is no way in hell anyone over the age of 5 is going to be able to fit their head in there for a look-see).
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s292/carlagodzilla/Ethyl/rustysomething.jpg
Orange is never a good color inside an engine. Thankfully this is only in one cylinder. This is the back of the valve, probably from leftover fuel or possibly moisture. Heaven knows it saw enough of that.

I can't get the engine to turn with my own muscle, so I'm looking for somewhere to get some Marvel Mystery Oil and loosen things up again before I make another attempt. I figure this is why it wouldn't start before. The hope is that getting it to loosen up and finally turn will be enough...and then just run the hell out of the engine to clean it off.

So that's where Ethyl and I stand right now. I think there's hope, but then I'm an eternal optimist. If anyone knows where I can find some Marvel Mystery Oil, I'd be in your debt. I can't find any local auto parts stores that carry it.

I_FLY_LOW
11-16-2007, 11:33 AM
wally world usually carries it..

FreeSky
11-16-2007, 11:39 AM
The one place I didn't look...thanks!

I_FLY_LOW
11-16-2007, 11:40 AM
looks like you're gonna have your hands full with this one! good luck with her!

looks like it has potential for this...
http://www.bikez.com/pictures/honda/1983/18210_0_1_2_vf%201100%20c%20-%20v65%20magna_Submitted%20by%20anonymous%20user.. jpg

Dusty
11-16-2007, 11:48 AM
Looks like she had a very long 25 years. Good luck and be sure to keep us updated on your progress.

Redbird
11-16-2007, 12:56 PM
looks like you're gonna have your hands full with this one! good luck with her!

Ditto. Looks like she has potential though.
Hmmm, maybe some low drag bars... relocate the headlight/horn assembly lower... eliminate the sissybar and add a custom seat... Black paint with purplish ghost flames...


Maybe I should just start working on my own project bike... :D

Rocky
11-16-2007, 02:54 PM
Best of luck to ya. I had the V-45 way way back in the day.

FreeSky
11-16-2007, 03:14 PM
Ditto. Looks like she has potential though.
Hmmm, maybe some low drag bars... relocate the headlight/horn assembly lower... eliminate the sissybar and add a custom seat... Black paint with purplish ghost flames...


I have many thoughts along those lines (definitely like the drag bars idea), but I won't let myself entertain them until it actually fires up. Then, I'll go apeshit with the mods! :)

She has loads of potential...just needs some loving. I should probably take a dustrag too it. Would make me feel like I'm making some progress.

FreeSky
11-16-2007, 03:15 PM
Best of luck to ya. I had the V-45 way way back in the day.

Awesome bikes....when they're running. They don't like to sit still for very long though...they get bitchy.

FreeSky
11-16-2007, 03:16 PM
looks like it has potential for this...
http://www.bikez.com/pictures/honda/1983/18210_0_1_2_vf%201100%20c%20-%20v65%20magna_Submitted%20by%20anonymous%20user.. jpg
Yup! That's exactly what she's /supposed/ to look like.

Juice
11-28-2007, 10:48 AM
You have got your hands full with that one. Let us know if ya need any wrench help.....

FreeSky
11-30-2007, 02:56 PM
Well...I put the bike in first gear to try to turn the engine by hand (by turning the back wheel). If anyone knows of any other way to turn the engine without dismantling things, let me know, cuz she ain't budging. :(

Looks like I might be doing a top end soon. :)

Redbird
11-30-2007, 06:33 PM
Did you soak the topend in MMO?
Try rocking the bike back and forth while in gear. You'll get more weight/leverage than trying by hand.

Bayou Boy
11-30-2007, 07:11 PM
Did you pull the spark plugs before you tried turning the engine over?

Cause it ain't gunna happen with them in.

FreeSky
12-01-2007, 01:02 PM
Did you pull the spark plugs before you tried turning the engine over?

Cause it ain't gunna happen with them in.

Oh, heh...um...haven't checked. They're unplugged, I know that much, but didn't check to see if they're in there. Thanks!

That was a D'Oh! moment.

FreeSky
12-01-2007, 01:03 PM
Did you soak the topend in MMO?
Try rocking the bike back and forth while in gear. You'll get more weight/leverage than trying by hand.

Yes to the MMO. I have it up on the center stand because the tires are flat. But if pulling the plugs doesnt' work, I'll try dropping it and pushing. Thanks!

FreeSky
12-01-2007, 01:36 PM
Crap...checked out the right side plug...the head is all rusted and flaking off. Is there a trick to getting the buggers out when it's stripped?? I don't have an 18 mm socket head to try on it yet, but when I dig through my stuff and find it, I'm afraid it'll strip.