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Britton
07-29-2009, 08:28 PM
I now have a little over 2000 miles on the 800GS. On the last two rides, when the ambient temperature rose above 90 degrees and the fuel level fell to half a tank, it would stall. This progressively worsened so Weave offered to truck me over to Heberts today. Heberts felt it was a computer issue so they did a complete program update. I tried replicating it after the upload and it would not stall so hopefully it is solved.

Then on the way home, Weave and I noticed that the gas tank is coming apart! Down each side of the tank, there is a seam where they "weld" the top half to the bottom half. It is now separating at that seam on both sides of the bike. I’ll be bringing it back to Heberts next week for a new gas tank.
Juice
07-29-2009, 09:55 PM
Bummer, It was good seeing you and the Weave today. I sure hope that we can all hook up for a ride soon!!!!!
Britton
07-29-2009, 10:02 PM
Good seeing you as well!
Navaho6
07-29-2009, 10:27 PM
Damn. I'll have to check mine but that's the first report I've heard about a gas tank separating, and I've been on the F800 forum for over a year.

My bike had a minor stalling issue. It would happen after long runs at constant speed when I pulled in the clutch to coast but it was sporadic. Hebert's changed out the fuel pump electronics and that fixed it.

I've also heard about F800's stalling in the rain because of water getting sucked into the charcoal cannister from the bottom vent hose. It's a simple fix - cut in a plastic "T", attach a short hose and it breaks the vacuum.
Britton
07-29-2009, 10:42 PM
I already did the "T" fix so I shouldn't have any problems with the rain. If the computer update doesn't end up working, they next step is to change the fuel pump electronics. I'm just wondering why the hell $14,000 bikes are having these issues. BS in my book.
Navaho6
07-29-2009, 11:09 PM
Not what you would expect but at least they can fix it. KTM is having a similar problem with their 690's but unfortunately, the dealers are having a tough time fixing some of them.


I was hesitant to buy a newly designed bike but the 3-year warranty was a selling point. What puzzles me is that BMW gives you the cheapest chain that they could find. Some of them failing with less than a 1000 miles. Not a big ticket item but still qwer Why not a DID or RK chain?
Navaho6
07-29-2009, 11:21 PM
Stuntman, just found this on the F800 site posted 5 days ago:

- http://f800riders.org/forum/showthread.php?t=30073

It is a double-lined tank. If it's the plastic that is separating, no worries BUT you can bet that BMW will get a earful about it. Good thing for a 3-year warranty. My bike is almost a year old.
Britton
07-29-2009, 11:47 PM
Thanks for the link! That is exactly what is happening on mine.
I hear you on the chain as well. Once again, BS in my book!!!
Britton
07-30-2009, 12:53 AM
Pat, are you taking your bike to Shreveport for all of your warranty work?
weave
07-30-2009, 06:27 AM
Hebert's ain;t such a bad place,I mean you got Juice and Tongue Tacos right next door.
Whats to complain about on a BMW,no need to get down and dirty working on em......
all you do is plug em into a black box
good seeing ya Juice
2Evil4U
07-30-2009, 06:29 AM
Pat, are you taking your bike to Shreveport for all of your warranty work?

Last I'd checked they hadn't gotten a new BMW tech, but that was a few months ago.
2Evil4U
07-30-2009, 06:30 AM
Hebert's has been doing fine by me for the warranty stuff on the piggy. No complaints at this point. They've been humoring me at least as well as the H-D dealer did.
ka5ysy
07-30-2009, 06:42 AM
Have you been playing in the sand at Thompson Creek again ????? ..........:respect:
Navaho6
07-30-2009, 07:59 AM
Pat, are you taking your bike to Shreveport for all of your warranty work?


For warranty items, Heberts. So far, they have been..........uh, ok. They ordered a wrong part (twice!) and would not listen to me when I told them the correct part # to order. They also ordered two left mirrors (insurance claim), and refused to order the right one, then charged me extra after I had accepted the claim and after they agreed to do it for the amount received.

The charge for parts was 15% higher than what I could have purchased them for online at Max BMW.
opus68
07-30-2009, 09:33 AM
The charge for parts was 15% higher than what I could have purchased them for online at Max BMW.

I have found that to be the case with everything I've tried to get from them. I will not do business with them again!
ka5ysy
07-30-2009, 09:45 AM
Chicago BMW is also cheaper !
2Evil4U
07-30-2009, 12:51 PM
Price-wise, I agree. The front rotors were the same as online, but everything else has been notably more. Fuel controller, for examply: $135 from Max, $195 aV Hebert's.

Oh, if we're bitching about cheap parts, Have y'all checked out the struts on the R12's? KLR owners wouldn't run these things. (My Wilbers are due next Wednesday.)
Ritten
07-30-2009, 01:29 PM
Oh, if we're bitching about cheap parts, Have y'all checked out the struts on the R12's? KLR owners wouldn't run these things. (My Wilbers are due next Wednesday.)


Due to arrive or due to be rebuilt? My Wilbers were some of the best money I spent on my bike!
slartidbartfast
07-30-2009, 02:40 PM
Being a small local dealer (as BMW dealers go), I will continue to patronize Heberts as they have been there with good advice and usually can provide small parts over-the-counter rather than having to wait. The premium for allowing Hebert's to stay in business seems well worth it to me. [now tires.... I can't see ever paying $400 to have a pair of tires fitted but then most name-brand dealers will be charging that sort of money]

I hear Chicago BMW can sometimes take three or four weeks to deliver.
2Evil4U
07-30-2009, 04:02 PM
Due to arrive or due to be rebuilt? My Wilbers were some of the best money I spent on my bike!

Due to arrive. I ordered them from Ted @ The Beemer Shop in June. I can't wait. You want to talk customer service? That is a shop people could take lessons from.
Britton
07-30-2009, 10:23 PM
Have you been playing in the sand at Thompson Creek again ????? ..........:respect:


Hey man! That's how nasty rumors get started!!! :D
The Dean
08-06-2009, 02:30 PM
BMW's look good at Starbucks....especially when the geeks are wearing that hideous Hi-Viz shit.
ka5ysy
08-06-2009, 03:57 PM
BMW's look good at Starbucks....especially when the geeks are wearing that hideous Hi-Viz shit.
:poop:

We will at least be seen and mostly avoided, unlike those who dress like pirates in black and dont know how to propely dress or ride in the first place (A/k/A Squids)

For the record, I think Starbucks coffee sucks... it is burned and way over priced.
The Dean
08-06-2009, 04:18 PM
:poop:

We will at least be seen and mostly avoided, unlike those who dress like pirates in black and dont know how to propely dress or ride in the first place (a/k/a squids)

for the record, i think starbucks coffee sucks... It is burned and way over priced.


bmw=bring my wallet
ka5ysy
08-06-2009, 05:10 PM
bmw=bring my wallet

Rumor control has it you are a BMW rider. Hmmmmmmmm.....
The Dean
08-06-2009, 05:16 PM
Wallet a bit thin? Obviously you are jealous ?:baby:


You got that right, I have over $27,000 in my GS Adventure.
The Dean
08-06-2009, 05:29 PM
Rumor control has it you are a BMW rider. Hmmmmmmmm.....


Moi? I'm not only a rider.......
Britton
08-06-2009, 10:37 PM
BMW's look good at Starbucks....especially when the geeks are wearing that hideous Hi-Viz shit.


Hey! I resemble that comment (except the Starbucks part)!!!
ka5ysy
08-06-2009, 11:04 PM
Ok... I confess to being a geek. Here is my outfit: Can ya see me now????

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n15/ka5ysy/102302-38front.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n15/ka5ysy/102302-38back.jpg
ka5ysy
08-06-2009, 11:07 PM
You got that right, I have over $27,000 in my GS Adventure.


Dude; you dont have a thin wallet.... it is totally squashed. What kind of farkles are on the GSA?
Britton
08-06-2009, 11:07 PM
Your jacket just fried my computer screen. Thanks a lot you geek!
ka5ysy
08-06-2009, 11:40 PM
Your jacket just fried my computer screen. Thanks a lot you geek!


You're welcome :nopity:
The Dean
08-07-2009, 10:52 AM
Dude; you dont have a thin wallet.... it is totally squashed. What kind of farkles are on the GSA?

3 adv cases

Zumo 550

Valentine 1 w/ squealer and Ram Mount

Touratech hard part

Scott Damper (only one in the world as of now)

BMW Tank bag

Full Remus Powercone

XM Radio

Touratech rack (replaces passenger seat)

Touratech skid plate

Tinted BMW windshield

All function, no bling.....btw, it's for sale.
I_FLY_LOW
08-07-2009, 11:06 AM
that's not a bike.. that's a freakin luxury land yacht!!
The Dean
08-07-2009, 11:52 AM
that's not a bike.. that's a freakin luxury off road adventure bike!!

I concur Sir!!:1stplace:
ka5ysy
08-07-2009, 09:38 PM
I revise my originalcomment... Your wallet isn't squashed, it turned into a black hole and sucked all your money up!

Nice setup so why are you selling? Must be lusting over somethingelse maybe?
The Dean
08-08-2009, 09:13 AM
I revise my originalcomment... Your wallet isn't squashed, it turned into a black hole and sucked all your money up!

Nice setup so why are you selling? Must be lusting over somethingelse maybe?

Maybe go with a K1300GT or 1300S......