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DukeRyder
11-29-2009, 08:58 PM
Went for a ride at Bethel today (North of Biloxi MS in the Desoto forest) and figured it's Sunday no hunting right? Wrong there was so many hunters out there perched right over the trails. Last week some stupid fucker shot a 10year old girl on a Horse (http://www.sunherald.com/278/story/1763665.html) (White and Black no brown on it). A guy on an ATV was told by one of the hunters in the trail "you need to be wearing hunter orange". If they fucking shoot at me on a Glowing Green KX with matching riding gear and it screaming on the Pipe that ain't no mistaking it for a deer

I guess Mississippi Allows Sunday Hunts but the Hunters are supposed to stay out of the ATV area. The rangers didn't give a fuck either. But those assholes will write you a ticket for hitting the numbered roads, riding too fast in the parking lot or having beer in your cooler. :fireangry:

king4456
11-29-2009, 09:56 PM
no hunting on sunday? thats a new one to me.

65 Flathead
11-29-2009, 10:14 PM
But those assholes will write you a ticket for hitting the numbered roads, riding too fast in the parking lot or having beer in your cooler. :fireangry:

Don't get me started on "The Man"!!
:SoapBox:
Between The Democrats making every law they can think of to take our freedom away, and the gung ho "enforcers" who don't care WHAT law is passed as log as it gives them one more reason to harass people, we don't stand a chance!

"Protect and serve" my ass crack!! Neglect and refrain is more like it these days!

Dirty_Sanchez
11-30-2009, 08:22 AM
No Kidding! Tiny D and I rode there on Saturday and Sunday at Bethel.

I had my head on a swivel both days looking out for any hunters but didn't see one while we were on the trail.

We like Bethel.

Dirty

Ritten
11-30-2009, 09:20 AM
Where is there a law/rule/practice of no hunting on Sunday??? It sure as hell isn't a state law!!

LiteHeaded
11-30-2009, 10:19 AM
It sure as hell isn't a state law!!

Nor is it common practice anywhere that I know of either.

Falls into the same argument as the jet skiers getting pissed because the river is loaded with people fishing on a weekend?????:wall:

Ritten
11-30-2009, 10:52 AM
I can see the legitimate gripe if there is an area that is designated for just trail riding and hunting is prohibited and still rangers turn a blind eye, but if both activities are legally allowed then get over it. The hunter who shot the little girl needs to spend quality time with Bubba in jail for his negligence.

It's public land. Both groups have rights to use it for legal purposes. If you don't want hunters on your riding land, or don't want riders on your hunting land, then do what the rest of us did........get together a few people and lease/buy some land.


Just my .02

DukeRyder
11-30-2009, 02:08 PM
Q. Where can I ride my motorcycle?
A. The Bethel Motorcycle Trail consists of 15 miles through piney forest with three trails offering a variety of riding experiences. Motorcycles can ride on the ATV trails, but are not allowed on the Mountain Bike Trail. Both the Bethel Motorcycle Trail & the Bethel ATV Trail are located in a Wildlife Management Area and are closed during hunting with dog deer season except on Sundays when hunting is NOT allowed. Contact either the Mississippi Wildlife, Fisheries & Parks (1-800-5GO-HUNT) or the De Soto Ranger District Office (601-928-4422) for hunting seasons.

When I took Hunter's Education/Safety course back in 1994 in MA. Sunday was listed as "Hunting Prohibited" And this was the case with all of New England and NY at the time and still is in MA today (I've never hunted anywhere else, don't trust some of them cleetuses out there in the woods in these parts and don't have a strong enough desire to pay to use a lease). I've been on plenty of deer hunts and pheasant hunts up there during that time period and never on a Sunday. http://www.mass.gov/dfwele/dfw/regulations/abstracts/hunt_fish_abstracts.pdf Pg. 14 has the Prohibited list.

Fishing HA! That's a ridiculous comparison unless you're fishing with a .30-06. These hunters have the entire forest why do they feel the need to hunt where the hiking, biking, horse and ATV trails are? Why not let them set up a tree stand in your back yard? You did see that a week ago a Hunter shot a Woman and her daughter riding horses? It amazes me that this could've happened, I was always taught to be sure of your target and BEYOND it! If you saw a deer and it wasn't a clear shot you didn't take it! Never mind mistaking a couple of painted horses with riders as White Tail????

It's bad enough that we have few and far between riding areas as it is. There's Thousands of acres of hunting leases with trails on them that never get used on the off-seasons. These guys aren't about sharing the land and the ranger fucks are lazy and only want to write tickets to raise revenue and writing tickets to guys in the parking lot is a lot easier than going out there and finding real violations. Or for some reason the hunters are exempt from the rules while Riders are not....

Ritten
11-30-2009, 02:34 PM
I see your point DukeRyder. I had never heard of no hunting on Sundays as it's certainly not a rule in Louisiana or on private land. If the hunters want to hunt on public land then they should face the penalties for it - same as riders.



I do whole-heartedly disagree with this statement though...


There's Thousands of acres of hunting leases with trails on them that never get used on the off-seasons. These guys aren't about sharing the land...

If I OWN land and lease it out so people can hunt on it, but don't want offroad vehicles on it, then that's my right. You do realize that you can lease land to ride on as well??? This isn't a Socialistic society (yet). Not everyone can afford or have the chance to hunt on private land so sharing public land is the compromise. Is there a season on riding over there??



I understand that your gripe is with the officials giving tickets to riders more than hunters, but granted, it's ALWAYS about revenue and who is easier to see? The guy dressed in camo sitting quietly in a stand, or the guy with the bright green KX that's screaming on the pipe?? No, it ain't right, but taking away others rights so that you can feel justice is exactly why this country is going into the shitter.

DukeRyder
11-30-2009, 02:50 PM
I'm not saying we have a right to ride those leases.

Back there we have hundreds of miles of trails that go through private land (peoples back yards even) for snowmobiling and in the fall it's closed off but after the deer season is over the gates open up and let the sleds through. We have next to zero public riding back there. IF the Sleds or Quads destroy the land the land owner has every right to shut his land off (most of it is closed to ATVs except in the Winter but 25% of the trail network can have quads in the summer but even if it was all open to ATVs you'd only be able to ride so far because the sleds can ride over frozen lakes/swamps). It's just a sharing; I haven't heard of anyone letting their hunting lease open to anyone around here for anything other than pay to hunt.

I just think it's kinda funny that down here in what people consider RedNeck heaven there's almost nowhere you can 4wheel a truck or off-road an ATV/Dirtbike without trespassing. Up north we had logging company owned land that you could ride through or hunt on no questions asked (rarely posted and the bulk of it is just open all the time) the other large tracts of land were owned by farmers and you just asked the farmer for permission. Maybe because we have such a smaller amount of land people are more open to sharing access???

Ask someone if you can ride through a hunting lease in these parts and they'll tell ya "NO WAY". I'm sure things aren't as friendly as they used to be back in New England either more yuppies move in and the old timers die off the Yuppies won't want anything other than tree huggers on their land.

LiteHeaded
11-30-2009, 06:53 PM
First I will say that that is odd that there would be a law against Sunday hunting in "Redneck Heaven" (your words, not mine). However it only applies to the management areas, and not the whole state. Regardless, your correct, no one should be hunting on Sunday on the management area.

Second you must have misunderstood my comparison, I have too many times been on both sides of the coin. When duck hunting, you get pissed when the fishing boat comes in to catch redfish. When fishing, you get pissed when the shrimp boats pull right next to you. When deer hunting you get pissed when the squirrel hunter comes strolling by. Point is that when you have public land everyone using that land has a different interpretation of their right to use it for their purpose.

Finally, after reading all the posts again it seems that your anger is more directed at the lawman for enforcing laws seemingly one sided, correct?

65 Flathead
11-30-2009, 07:33 PM
Damn Coppers! FLIP EM OFF !!!!!!!!!!

:grrrrr:

DukeRyder
12-01-2009, 12:49 AM
finally, after reading all the posts again it seems that your anger is more directed at the lawman for enforcing laws seemingly one sided, correct?

yes! Damn government revenue raisers is all they are.